Hello Dave If you have some planted community aquariums, these guys make great fish. I had some a few years ago, kept 2 males in a larger tank that wasnt a breeding setup but one of my "just to look at" tanks. These fish were very attractive fish. They had run the gauntlet from Ottawa to Montreal north of the border and i saw them in tanks from Buffalo to Plattsburgh NY. It is too bad that they are a hybrid and Asia made sure that no females were sent. I dont believe in keeping hybrids in general, but they were a very nice looking fish that i would have kept, just becuase i liked the way they looked. So dont feel bad because you bought them. WE dont have to breed everything we keep. Damn did i just say that? OMG I think Im running a fever lol . John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!