Simple solution Sal When you make the northern pilgrimage, only you get to go home with fish lol!! And dont bring me any rift lake stuff either lol!! I've got too much of my own i need to get rid of. Free rift lake fish to who ever comes and gets them, seriously!! John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!