A. sp. belem! I'm kinda surprised as they aren't all that big so I expected them to grow out a bit more? Anyway, the female is yellow as a banana and guarding her cave with a fury! I finally got some fry from my Biotoechus opercularus! I think they have spawned a few times, and I wasn't paying close enough attention. But i just sucked out 30 or 40 of the little guys! I was surprised by this one too. There are 5 of them in a 10 gallon tank. They were supposed to get moved to larger quarters when available, but somehow it just never happened. Anyway, a 10 seems to be enough! now if i can just not do something stupid and kill the fry! LOL! Be well, Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.