That's true, Scott, but in the wild they also have a continuous flow of fresh water. In this case the concept (with apologies to environmental activists) 'the solution to pollution is dilution' becomes valid. Mike Wise Scott wrote: > I am intrigued by the DOCs comment. I (obviously) have > not bred any apistos, but I was under the impression > that in nature they live amongst leaf litter and > decaying plant matter. Wouldn't that mean high DOCs? > Just curious. > > --- Zack Wilson <aquamaniac@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Hey Joe, > > > > When I was keeping wild panduro, they would > > generally spawn for me in the > > following conditions: > > > > pH ~5.0 sometimes fell lower > > Pure RO with minimal buffering KH/GH > > Used Kent Marine pH Control Minus to lower the pH to > > 5.0 > > Temp. 79-80F > > Fed variety of live and frozen foods. > > > > One thing to watch for that I've found is to keep > > those DOC's and TDS's as > > low as possible. If water changes were allowed to > > slip and those got too > > high, brood care suffered. A lot of times I would do > > a big water change > > (50-60%) with RO water adjusted to the proper pH, > > and they would spawn the > > next day. Sounds to me like they may already be > > getting ready to spawn. May > > just be a matter of having patience, waiting for a > > storm or something like > > that. > > > > The female guards the clutch, though the males have > > always been good around > > the fry when they are free swimming, in my > > experience. > > > > Good luck! > > > > Zack > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > > apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe > > or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.