In a message dated 13/01/02 06:05:28 GMT Standard Time, BigJohnW@webtv.net writes: > With a water out of the tap at 6.0 pH and > <10ppm hardness, it's easy to get a pH in that 5.0 range. > Pretty much the same for me in North Wales ( >2 metres per year rain onto inert granite will make very soft groundwater). pH 5.2 - just checked it- certainly makes breeding fish easy - Dicrossus filiamentosa, Apisto hongsloi, Nanacara anomla and Guianacara geaeyi (treat like a 7" Apisto) are all with fry in a 48x18x18 tank at the moment. Alan W ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.