Well I'll vouch for good pet shops in Milwaukee too.... Way back in the last millenium.. hehe .. 1996, I went to my first AKA convention. By the end of the weekend i could find about 10 different pet stores without a map. I ended up taking a bunch of guys from Pittsburgh along for the tour. Aquatics Unlimited was great, Hoffers was awesome, plus we found some really nice apistos and westies at Pets N stuff ( something like that). All i know is if i ever get out that way again, I cant wait to hit those stores. Of course i happen to think The Fish Place in North Tonowanda rivals any of them....maybe better. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.