See okay thanks Tony, I at first thought it was an old John Lennon tune buy it said On not Oh. Well, so far I have two spawns...One from double red and one from yellow tail who turned orange red. Due to what I am feeding I was told by some of the more knowledgeable people on the list. I'm working hard on the Flame tail and also at the same time the Panduro and Filamentosus. Man I'm actually sweating from all the water changes. I have found a neat way of conservation of water but, I'll have to tell you at the next auction its a JerryB top secret method and I can't give away everything for free.<G> Back when you guys were learning about rivers in Columbia I barely knew the rivers in Pa....Sorry that's just the way it was. But, I'm learning...Never too late. JerryB ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the Apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto