I just got the pics to load (problems with the home PC), and i would have to agree with Mike. I have a male eunotus at home that looks exactly like this fish except the fin color is yellow instead of red. I actually have two males and would like to find females if anyone knows of any please contact me. Greg ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto