Welcome Adam, The only thing that I do when using a coconut shell is make sure the shell is cleaned of all the meat and then wait for it to sink. Your male doesn't need to see the eggs. He know the female is in there laying eggs. Mike Wise Adam G wrote: > Hello everyone, > > This is my first submission to the list, so I thought I'd give a quick blurb > on what my current apisto goals are! The short of it is that I'm beginning > to try to breed Apistogramma mamore (a trio - my first apistos). > > I had two questions regarding using coconut shells for breeding caves. I've > read conflicting info and I thought that list members might have their 2 > cents to add! > > 1) I've read that some people use sand paper to smooth out their shells. > I'm a bit confused by this, considering the inside of a shell is already > smooth. Perhaps they're smoothing out the "hairs" on the outside of the > shell? If so, what's the purpose for performing either sanding? Also, if > you have any other advice on anything that needs to be done to the shells to > prep them before introduction to the tank it would be much appreciated. > > 2) I've sawed the shells in half, and I've drilled one pinky-finger sized > hole in each shell. The hole is just large enough for one female to fit in > at a time. I tried to get the hole as small as possible to provide as snug > and safe a fit for the females to make them comfortable. My confusion is > with the male. I've read different reports of people setting up breeding > "caves" where the male cannot enter, and others who insist on creating a > hole large enough for the male to wriggle in. I know that a male can > fertilize eggs that he can't actually see, but will he? > > Thanks, > Adam > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto