Re: Fish ID

["Mike Jacobs" <mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com>]

OK you guys.....someone owes me a beer at the ACA and I get an A+ from Mike
W. ..............I got it first..............;-)  I'm telling you guys Mike
W. used to do this all of the time and it was fun................I really
was listening back then Mike!!!!!!!!!!!!

......actually it was a real guess with the Yellow, Lyrtail and the evident
size........it had nothing to do with all Mike said.....I learned again!!!

Mike

Mike Jacobs
Center for Advanced Technologies
St. Pete, Fl.
Apisto sales:
http://www.geocities.com/mikefjacobs/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@fgn.net>
To: <apisto@listbox.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Fish ID


> OK guys, I just got back from a Boy Scout weekend & found this. I think
it's time for a
> preview of coming attractions, ACA-Wise (pun intended). Let's look at the
photos. Photo
> #56 seems to show most of the features needed to ID this fish.
>
> First we look at the body: moderately deep (high backed) and laterally
compressed. The
> scales show a metallic lighter center with darker edges. This gives much
of the fish a
> net like pattern, especially above the lateral band. The lateral band is
fairly narrow,
> in no place is it more than 1 scale wide. The lateral band doesn't have a
lateral spot.
> Instead there is a relatively narrow dark flank patch on Bar 3, extending
from the
> lateral band upward toward the dorsal fin. The caudal spot is rather
small, being an
> vertically oriented oval/rectangle that only covers about 1/3 of the
height of the caudal
> peduncle.
>
> Now let us look at the fins. The dorsal fin is fairly high, but does not
have any major
> extension of the dorsal spines. The spiny dorsal is only barely serrated.
The soft part
> of the dorsal (& anal) fin is extended into a point, but doesn't extend
past the middle
> of the caudal fin. The caudal fin appears (in #56) to be squared off with
minor pointed
> extensions on both the upper & lower lobes. The center of the caudal fin
has rows of fine
> spots; the outer edges of the caudal show darker pigment running parallel
to the bony
> rays of the fin.
>
> Finally, notice that I don't even consider colors. They are not important
diagnostic
> features for most apistos.
>
> Now the combination of the deep laterally compressed body, light scales
with dark edges,
> narrow lateral line, patterned tail, & especially the flank patch point to
a species
> belonging to the steindachneri group.
>
> This is a small species group, composed of only 4 species. Of these, 3
show a caudal
> pattern of spot row covering the entire height of the tail. Only A.
steindachneri shows
> the pattern listed above. Again 3 of the 4 species have round to truncated
caudal fins.
> Only A. steindachneri has a slightly "double tipped" lyre caudal fin.
Also, 3 of the 4
> show fairly broad flank patches and caudal spots. Only A. steindachneri
has the narrow
> flank patch & smallish caudal spot shown here. Thus, all the features
point to this being
> A. steindachneri. Simple, right?
>
> Mike Wise
>
> Jon Right wrote:
>
> > Hi all. I am looking for some help identifying a fish. The store had
them
> > listed as 'Dwarf Cockatoos', but it doesn't look like my other
cacatuoides.
> > The photos are at http://blox.dropship.org/~jon/photos/aquaria. It is
the blue
> > gray fish that is in the catch cup. Images 55 through 60. If anyone has
any ideas as
> > to what it is, please let me know. The images behind the thumbnails are
rather large,
> > but I wanted to get them up and find out what it is.
> >
> >  Thanks,
> >         Jon
> > --
> > Jon Wright
> > Jon.Wright@DropShip.org
> >
>
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