My experience with A.elizabethae is with tank raised fish from Europe. I also found them rather easy to spawn pretty much like an agassizzii but smaller. I found the fry easy to raise with frequent water changes and a clean environment. I used good floating plant cover as well as several caves, java moss and pieces of driftwood. I raised the fry on bbs and in well water with pH 5.5 and 15 us/cm. Dave Sanchez --- David Soares <apistodave@bendcable.com> wrote: > Elizabethae is a tough one to keep you guys easy to > spawn but then > what --one suggestion you are on the right track by > keeping changes to a > minumum but also when grown up dont move fry move > parents---F1's almost > impossible to spawn when i got the furst ones 6 > yearts ago from Uwe they > were wild and spawned easy i put fry in grawing tank > and just when an inch > long lost about 300 in 3 days > Soft Water Dwarf Cichlids > Uwe Romer & David Soares > 14697 S. Bluegrass Ln. > Sisters OR, 97759 > Phone/541-549-9350 > apistodave@bendcable.com > www.apistogrammaidiots.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray" <rbnw34747@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <apisto@listbox.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:35 AM > Subject: Re: elizabethae spawnings > > > > ok george-thanks for the info a mental note has > been made----scouse RAY > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Geo" <szucs@videotron.ca> > > To: <apisto@listbox.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:38 AM > > Subject: elizabethae > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ray > > > > > > I`m George from Montreal who is spawning the > elizabethae. > > > > > > I been breeding them for 1 & 1/ 2 years now. > > > > > > I have the pair in a 15 gallon tank,with gravel > ,plants, coconut shells > > and a > > > box filter > > > > > > I use R.O water 80% and the rest is tap,which > isn`t that hard either > (120 > > ppm, > > > PH 7.0) > > > > > > P.H is under 6.0 and hardness is around 20 ppm > > > > > > The spawning part was very easy for me,but > keeping the fry`s alive was > > very > > > hard > > > > > > At first I had a very high date rate of > fry`s,over 90% > > > > > > The hardest part for me, is that the fry`s are > very delicate to water > > > changes,the first 2-3 months > > > > > > Very small water changes > > > > > > I did breed the off spring once so far,only 8 > fry`s > > > > > > Good Luck > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > > > For instructions on how to subscribe or > unsubscribe or get help, > > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > apisto-digest@listbox.com also > > available. > > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or > unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > apisto-digest@listbox.com also > available. > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe > or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto