I was wondering if someone could help me with the ID of an apisto I bought from one of LFS's here in MD. It was sold to me as A. cauc., and as a newbie I knew no better. I posted it in the yahoo club gallery and also on the digital aquarium site. that's problem #1. #2 does anyone have any ideas on how to get a 3" apisto out of a medium planted 75 gal tank with numerous inverted clay pots and driftwood? ok and before there are numerous replies, can this be done with out taking down the tank? #3 Is anyone a member of some apisto/dwarf cichlid club in MD that bought all of the good apistos at the house of tropicals? about a month ago they all kinds of stuff. 2 days ago they had nootin'. not even in the tanks that accidentally have a random apisto thrown in. actually they had some poor looking caucs (poor as in not-so-healthy), and some "assorted apistos"-which is great if you are dave, uwe, or mike wise, but not if you're archie. I appreicate any help from anyone. Thanks, Archie I think the one-liners are ok. it just shows us different people's character. and the best part is it takes more time to get mad at them than it does to read em. but i ain't in charge =] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto