Hello Greg I had a pair of these guys about 5 years ago. Truly a beautiful fish... when in breeding colors. Those pics of that bright yellow fish with several lateral lines of dots is what you get when they want to spawn... at most of the other times the color faded and the lateral lines seemed to be not so dark black. But dont get me wrong, it was a gorgeous fish. Never did get them to spawn for me... my fish were wild caught specimens and i might not have giving them all they needed to get them into spawning conditions.... they looked like they were going to spawn several times but i never saw any eggs.... maybe they spawned and promptly ate the eggs afterwards, who knows. But if you get the chance to get some of them, do it!!! John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto