Well, I just got my copy of the Romer Atlas today (thanks John). First thing I looked up is the moae. I can now conclusively say that I never had the true moae to my knowledge. Not really even close. It is apparently, as Mike and others have figured, some eunotus-type fish. They looked identical to the photo named as moae in the Linke/Staeck book, whatever that may be. Close to the eunotus in the Romer Atlas, but not quite. Zack ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto