Not a bit of blue anywhere on either fish. Only colours: the black markings with the white/neutral, or the occassional yellow/yellow-red on all the fins and the chest area. But no blue whatsoever. However... they're hardly even an inch big. The larger of the two's getting close to an inch, but the smaller's closer to 3/4th of an inch, possibly even a bit less. T'is a bit difficult to tell... They're not too appreciative of me laying them out on the yardstick... And on a side note: I completely redecorated the tank today and added yet MORE Java Moss. Seems to be helping a bit. My next step will be to add the 2" flowerpots. Then it will be the setting up of a new tank... And on yet another note... My teeny-tiny Pelvi subocellatus fem had a red stomach today!!! I think my pandurini male's turned her on... And I found my third pan, the second fem I'd thought I'd lost, when I cleaned the tank today. I'm continually amazed at how Apistos can like just evaporate into nothingness... green -----Original Message----- From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Mike & Diane Wise Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 5:36 PM To: apisto@listbox.com Subject: Re: Trifaciatas >From your previous description of your fish, I couldn't tell what sex your fish are. If your fish are over 1½" (4 cm) long, do either have metallic blue areas below the eyes? If so, they are males. Females don't show metallic blue on the head. A. trifasciata is a highly polygamous species. The male, for its size, are fairly aggressive toward females not ready to spawn. Because of this A. trifasciata should be housed in a relatively large tank for their size, a 30"/75 cm long tank at least. I've reproduced this species in smaller tanks as pairs but the continual chasing always stressed me out (I imagine the female wasn't too happy either.). Personally, 2 more females in a well planted 20L or larger tank is the best way to go. Mike Wise green wrote: > In talking with a fellow list and MAS member, I've come to the determination > that I've two fem tri's... This is based on them "yellowing up" (fins and > chest area; varies between a pretty lemon yellow and a really nice > yellowy-red) as they go chasing the new folks in the neighborhood, and the > black markings on their pectoral and vent fins... > > David, what do I do now? Are these harem fish? Do I need another fem and a > single male? > > Or do I need to seperate the two fems and get two males? > > Or, are these the reverse harem kind'a gals? > > What would be the best way to go here? > > And I think I'm going to seperate the tri's and cac's... There's been no > ramming as of yet, just chasing... But... Better to be safer than sorrier. > > green > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader