Well congrats are in order for you too Sal 2 females holding is cool... i really love this fish, such nice colors... not bright and gawdy but very subtly nice...females look good too. my group consists of 1 male and 3 females... all wild caught. Im hoping that with 2 older females and a younger male that this makes for a good formula.... the younger female that is the same age as the male seems to be pressured into hiding alot lately by the older bigger females... And Mike...... no blue goop this time, just very radical water temp change in the past 2 days, from the mid 90s to mid 70s as the northeast cooled off yesterday after that scorching heat we had all of last week.... but hey, it didnt snow, so im not complaining..... lol... that comes next month at the end of august again. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader