Ok i see some of Marks points, but there is another side.... i think Bill V posted a message a few days ago about even having his posts make it to the list. I wrote a message two days ago that never showed up... i went back and checked the archives like Mark suggested and it didnt show up there,..... anyone else having this problem??? Writing messages and not having them get to the list? Maybe this is why i thought that maybe something was wrong. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader