Coby, Like Mike said, the picture there really doesn't do them justice. Most of the males have more color than that. There is also variation in the population. Some males have lots of yellow, including solid yellow ventrals and a good amount of yellow in the caudal. Others tend to have little yellow and more of a blue-violet color to the fins. They're both nice looking fish though, I like 'em. I've got a few pics of some of the males, but I'm not very proficient at putting pics on the web. I need to get one of my buddies to handle that part for me. Zack ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader