Hey Eric I'm glad to hear their still "Floating" around those plants were amazing--they were flowering and some of them were 2 feet tall and blocking the picture window they were in front of!!!!! Soft Water Dwarf Cichlids David Soares & Uwe Romer 14697 S Bluegrass LN Sisters Or 97759 apistodave@bendcable.com www.apistogrammaidiots.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Olson" <erik@thekrib.com> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:31 AM Subject: Re: Anubias species, was Re:Putting fishroom back together was Re: Problem with Aggie (ridiculously long!) > On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, David Soares wrote: > > > Eric where are the Nubias > > OK, it's bordering on "you hadta be there", so I'll push it back to > something helpful to the group. Or maybe not... > > David sent us a huge box of Anubias sp. a number of years back (early > '99?). He'd used them (I seem to recall) as extra filtration, growing on > lava rock in rain gutters off the back of some of his tanks. Some folks > already know this, but semi-aquatic plants make EXCELLENT nutrient removal > systems for tanks when grown emersed (feet-in-water, but not submerged). > If you've got a way of circulating the water through a small trough (i.e. > rain gutter) and back into the tank, the plants grow hydroponically & suck > the nutrients right out of the water. The more polluted the tank, in > fact, the more the plants thrive. > > So anyway, Dave redid his fishroom & sent us a bunch of his extra plants. > Actually, when they arrived, they had a lot of brush algae encrusted on > them, so I'm guessing they'd been out of the gutters and underwater for a > while. I remember hearing something also about "no mixed biotope > african/south american fish and plants", but I could be wrong. These > species of Anubias are the large-growing types that are very touchy > underwater (azfelli, lanceolata types); one of the popular rumors you hear > is that they don't really spend much time underwater when in the wild. A > lot of our Anubias plants get brush algae on them from time to time too. > My favorite answer is, PLANT HOSPITAL TANK. > > The plant hospital tank is a tank with about 3" of water or less, and a > tiny pump to circulate the water. The tank is closed, to keep the > humidity high, but the leaves are out of the water, so the algae cannot > survive. After a few months in the hospital, the dried algae can be > gently rubbed off & the plants returned to submersed existence for a > while. After a year in the hospital, the plants are often thriving and > out-competing each other (if we've remembered to change the water and > occasionally fertilize it). Back in '99 or whenever it was that Dave sent > the Anubias, our plant hospital tank was this giant 2x2 foot > cylindrical-shaped tank with a 175 watt metal halide bulb over it, that > had failed as a good old fish tank because the 175 watt bulb was too darn > bright for the tank. So in they went, and out came most of the water. > > We kept a couple of killies in there, but generally underutilized the tank > for fish. Which kinda sucked, because it was the one tank we actually had > upstairs for people to see when they came into our house. After maybe a > year or so, we added water and fish, turning it back into a fish tank > again, and went off dealing with what to do with our 2-foot tall Anubias > species. Some of the plants we traded or donated, others we kept. I > beleive that one of the smaller specimens may be in my high tech tank, and > it's about due for rehab in the hospital tank. Except that the new, > smaller, hospital tank, > > http://mystery.thekrib.com/hospital.jpg > > seems to be rather crowded at the moment. I'm going to go out on a limb > and say that some of those are descendents of the specimens we got from > Dave. > > And now you have...the rest of the story. Hey, I'll be in San Jose at the > PCCA this Saturday, trying to madly entertain cichlid people with more > stuff like this about keeping plants and cichlids together! > > - Eriko > > -- > Erik Olson > erik at thekrib dot com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader