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Re: payaminonis???



Kelly..............not a problem on sending a pic to put on the internet.  Is 
it in .jpg form or .gif???

Just attach it to an e-mail and we are off and running!

Mike



> Holy Crap, It happened again when I rejoined the list.
> I just got done reading All the posts' from being gone this weekend,(on a
> very cool trip to austin I might add-Thanks to Tim Ellis and the guys a
> Aqatek!!!!!!!)
> 
> Mike, Can I send you some pics to post on your site of interesting apistos'
> that need an ID? I would like to be able to post a URL for some different
> input.
> Thanks,
> Kelly Higgins
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Jacobs" <mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 4:20 PM
> Subject: Re: payaminonis???
> 
> 
> > Mr. Soares says....."...Payaminonus comes from Ecuador which does not
> permit
> > the export of ornamental fish..."
> >
> > Just a note of my own!!!  From the Romer Book pg. 666 (......sign of the
> > devil.....;-) )........."...a village at the confluence of the Rio
> > Tutapishcu and the Rio Payaminonis, the Rio Napo System......"  This is to
> > indicate that the A. payaminonis comes from this area.  Julio Melgar has
> > several types of fish from the Rio Napo System.  Of the fish from this Rio
> > Napo System is the fish that I have.  This fish is POSSIBLY A.
> > payaminonis......at worse Julio said to call it sp.Payaminonis or sp.
> affin
> > payaminonis.........................Repeat.......Julio is getting fish
> from
> > the Rio Napo system and according to Romer himself the a. payaminonis is
> > from there......you folks
> > decide...............................................
> >
> > Those of you who REALLY know me know I am not trying to hide anything from
> > anyone.  I have had these fish for 3-4 weeks.  I waited this long to get a
> > reasonable ID on these fish.  I won't drag the people into this discussion
> > but I went to some very apt people for ID and as usual without the fish in
> > hand it is terribly difficult.  The picture in the Romer book on page 667
> is
> > virtually exact to what I am calling the "Dominate" form of the
> > males......look at the pic of the female on pg 671.......imagine the fish
> in
> > the pic being colored YELLOW and the body spot dark.......it is exactly
> what
> > these fish are......look at the video.  The fish on pg 669 the nijsseni
> > looking fish with the caudal color.....look at the video.  There are some
> > subtle differences but books and books and books.....................I
> have
> > been around for a long time too and know that books are off some
> > time...........but there was no attempt to deceive anyone!  That's why I
> put
> > on A. sp payaminonis on the video......if A. sp affin. payaminonis is
> better
> > then so be it.......but let's not say it can't be an A. payaminonis
> because
> > Romers book itself says it came from the Rio Napo System.
> >
> > This fish carries a caudal that is round and the black/red coloration does
> > not go completely around.  The dorsal extensions on the males are EXACTLY
> > what they look like on pg 667 of Romer.  Some of these fish look very
> close
> > to nijsseni in subdominant colors which is odd because usually the more
> > colorful males are the dominate ones...........I think!
> >
> > Thanks for listening...........................let's have discussions and
> > trust each other rather than throwing accusations.  I am willing to accept
> > if this fish is A. sp payaminonis but let's talk it over rather than "It
> > isn't..." because.........................
> >
> > Thanks all.................Have a super day everyone...............
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Mike Jacobs
> > SOUTHERN APISTOS
> > Wild Peruvian Imports...Plus
> > http://www.southernapistos.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Soares" <apistodave@bendcable.com>
> > To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 11:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: payaminonis???
> >
> >
> > > PS- Payaminonus comes from Ecuador which does not permit the export of
> > > ornamental fish--just a note
> > > Soft Water Dwarf Cichlids
> > > David Soares & Uwe Romer
> > > 14697 S Bluegrass LN
> > > Sisters Or    97759
> > > apistodave@bendcable.com
> > > www.apistogrammaidiots.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mike Jacobs" <mjacobs2@tampabay.rr.com>
> > > To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:22 AM
> > > Subject: payaminonis???
> > >
> > >
> > > > Folks.......take a look at the video...........it's a bit of a long
> load
> > > but
> > > > the is 30 second video will show either A. payaminonis or A. sp.
> > > > payaminosis.....take your choice  I know the books say that A.
> > payaminonis
> > > > is no longer in the hobby......but take a look at these!!!  The
> > > sub-dominate
> > > > form looks like nijsseni which is exactly like the Romer book puts
> > > > it......take a look at the Romer book and decide for
> > yourself.........it's
> > > > fun when these fish come in and you have to ID them!!!!!!!  My videos
> > will
> > > > get better!!!!.......;-)
> > > >
> > > > http://screamindragcharters.50megs.com/payaminonis2.avi
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > Mike Jacobs
> > > > SOUTHERN APISTOS
> > > > Wild Peruvian Imports...Plus
> > > > http://www.southernapistos.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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