Hello Bob Ruby Clown is actually a common trade name for Mikrogeophagus Altispinosa..... I've seen that name in many shops from Maine all the way to Milwaukee.... dont know where they get the name from, but its not that uncommon to see them called that..... Most of the time, common name is the Bolivian Ram..... but... theres another trade name.... lol John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader