Jerry, My borellii female in the 75 gallon tank did not raise any fry until I pulled out four large marauding clown loaches and two large angelfish a few weeks ago. I pulled them out since they were getting too big and starting to damage the aquascape, uprooting foreground plants and chewing on new shoots of stem plants, etc. The tank has a high number of snails, both ramshorn and Malaysian trumpet snails. I used to think that these snails ate eggs, but both my apistos and angelfish seem to do just fine with a healthy community of snails right in their tank. Tomoko ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader