Coby......Jerr is essentially right. However there are several worms that can be fed to apistos that seem NOT to carry the potential trouble some people run into with the black worms. 1) Grindal worms can be cultured with minimal problems................a 4 x 4 inch (or so or bigger) container for refrigerated foods can be used......... a little dirt/peat moss combination (everyone has their favorite mix).........a grindal starter and you are off and running............no refrigeration, room temp..............you can feed every other day from this culture when it is running great. The grindal worm can get to about 1/8th of a black worm................apistos love them! 2) White worms.....................the white worm is 1/2 the length of a black worm and a bit more trouble than grindals............again black dirt/peat mix.........a box (there are as many versions of white worm boxes and mixes as there are people!!!!!).....I do mine in 2 1/2 gall plastic aquariums.............feed the worms..........harvest and you are off and running!!!!..............white worms require cold........55 degrees or less.....refrigerator!..........you can harvest these every day when the culture is really rolling! People say that jeeze you have to be a live food culturist to be successful with some tropical fish........that's not quite true but to give the fish the best food and allow them to really do best sometimes we do crazy things. Live foods becomes a way of life for some aquarists......being in Killies for 30+ years has trained me in the live food business so that it is simply part of my day and I don't even think about it any more. Good luck to you!!! Mike Mike Jacobs SOUTHERN APISTOS INCA 50's IN STOCK NOW! Wild Peruvian Imports...Plus http://www.southernapistos.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <JerrCarol@aol.com> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: Re: foods for apistos > In a message dated 10/27/2002 12:57:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, > theoutlaw_torn@hotmail.com writes: > > > > I am sick of dealing with live black worms... is there a combination of > > other foods or food that would be as good as live black worms for fattening > > > > fish up and increasing their willingness to spawn? > > > > Hmmm I wonder what would happen if the person cooking for you said they > were sick of making your favorite food.<G> > All those food you mentioned are good. When you get into the real habit of > doing bbs it won't be a matter of being lazy. You will just do it. I culture > my own blackworms now so that is a little more work then just buying them > but, if you want the product you get from a well fed and cared for fish then > you have to feed them well along with the great water conditions. Judge for > yourself, feed what you want and if your happy with what you get then I guess > that's what matters. > Jerry > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader