Kelly, Do you have the real A. ortmanni? A. steindachneri originally came in under this name - and still does. Römer's Cichlid Atlas provides all the information you will need to identify, keep & breed either fish. I highly recommend it if you do not have it. Mike Wise Kelly Higgins wrote: > Hey all,I just picked up a trio of A. Ortmanni, > Any practical knowledge from those who have > kept/bred this sp.?Not much in my books about > them.Thanks, > Kelly Higgins ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader