Hello Kelly I love Steindachneri..... very nice fish.... So if you are recommending them to ppl, send me yours!!! lol Actually i have a trio from a line i've been keeping going for about 4 years now..... male is awesome and looks great. But i dont have them spawning alot for me..... maybe they need a bigger tank..... thats my new kick lately.... move groups into my open 55 gallon tanks... My group of LyreTail Panduro goes into the next open 55 , once i get it set up..... I have a quad of them and they look great... Anyone spawning the Lyretails Panduros yet?? Are ppl setting them up in same water conditions as Nijsenni and Panduro?? John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader