Bob, My trip to Stavanger, Norway was fantastic! The weather couldn't have been better. I was told to expect it to be cool & rainy, like the Pacific Northwest, but the week I was there was sunny & cool. Stavanger is the oil capital of Norway. Norway is the 2nd largest exporter of oil in the world, after Saudi Arabia. Because of this Stavanger is a very cosmopolitan city. Still gas was NoK9.80/L (~$6.00/US gallon) so we American have nothing to complain about in that area. I stayed in a bed & breakfast (the bridal suite - with my wife of course) in the older part of the city. Breakfast was Continental style - with caviar. We spent most of our days walking through Old Stavanger, looking in the shops, going to museums, & enjoying a boat ride up the fjords. I got to visit some of their pet shops. The pet shops were surprisingly similar to those in the US. They had mostly the same 'bread & butter' fish. Most of the dwarf cichlids that I saw for sale were commercially bred fish from western & central Europe. I saw Hüser Red Agassizi, Red Shoulder Macmasteri, A. cacatuoides Double Red, A. gibbiceps, A. iniridae (lots!), & A borellii (I may have forgotten some). One difference that I saw was that the most commonly sold catfish was not Corydoras aneaus. Instead everyone sold C. sterbai - a much prettier fish. The shops have mostly the same brands of equipment we have in the US. Of course the tanks were metric. I was particularly enthralled with a brand from Denmark that had aluminum frames. I was told that these tanks cost about the same as all glass aquariums. My program was well received - all 2 hours of it! There were aquarists who traveled 5 hours by ferry & road to get there. Alf Stalsberg even delayed a trip to South America & flew into Stavanger for the program. I hope it was worth it. Alf is someone we should bring to the US to give us programs on his many collecting trips. This gentleman is very knowledgeable & can TALK! An auction was held after my talk. It was similar to the typical American fish club auction. It had the general mix of fish & used equipment, & books. I was lucky to buy a copy of "Die Buntbarsche Amerikas, Band 1" for NoK150 (~$21.00). This was a steal & it was one of the books I was hoping to buy while there. There are a few Norwegian books in Norwegian & a few books that have been translated into Norwegian, but most of the books were in English. Actually, most of the aquarium books used in Norway are the same as we see in the US. The main difference that I saw between US & the auction in Stavanger was how item were purchased. At every US auction I have been to the buyer pays at the end of the auction. In Stavanger you paid for each bag as it was auctioned off. At least there was no 'bidder's shock' at the end of the auction. The members of the local fish club (Jæren Akvarienklubb) were wonderful hosts! I was treated like a king. Diane & I were invited to members' homes for dinner & viewing their aquariums. Language was no problem at all. Almost everyone can speak English. Popular fish among the members were South American cichlids, large & small, and wild types of livebearers. Malawi Peacocks & some Tanganican cichlids were more popular than Mbunas. I did see 2 species that I wished that I could bring home with me. One is the rarely available A. sp. Rio Preto do Candeias. This species came into the hobby, in low number in both the US & Europe, about 3-4 years ago & quickly disappeared. The Stavanger crew has kept the species breeding while it has disappeared everywhere else, it seems. The other fish is Nannacara sp. Essequibo. This fish has features somewhere between N. anomala & N. taenia. This is an undescribed species, originally collected by Scandinavian aquarists in Guyana about 5 years ago. As far as I know it is not found in the hobby anywhere else. They have been keeping it all this time - and they had tanks full of adults waiting to be moved! Most of their rarer species, it seems, come from specimens brought back from collecting trips by the members. The Jæren members have major problems getting wild & unusual fish. They have found it almost impossible to find anyone who can supply wild caught fish in lots of 10- 20 fish. It's hard to justify buying box lots of rarer species in a country of 4 million. Right now they are looking for anyone who is willing to sell small lots of species, at 2 - 4 boxes per order. If any North American or European sellers are interested in selling fish to them, please let me know & I'll forward your email address to them. Mike Wise Bob Wiltshire wrote: > Mike, > > How was the trip? Did you see any new fish? What's the > state of the hobby there? > > Mostly just lurking on the list but paying attention. > > Bob Wiltshire > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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