Yup, hard water and, at present, some shells. I am trying to get more shells and I need to get more sand. My biggest problem is getting my hardness up high enough 'cos my water comes out of the tap at 12ºGH/KH. I am now using the waste water from my RO units that I have for my apistos, but don't want to make it too hard. I also have a few Egyptian mouth brooders and a couple of other Tanganyikans. I'm not so sure that was so off topic. Sometimes I think we are all too conservative about what we describe as a dwarf cichlid, after all, my interest in these fish all started with the apistos and the more agressive apistos might legitimately off-topic if we were to classify DCs by their behaviour, I was specifically thinking of Apistos like sp. "Atahualpa". C:-)lin ----- Original Message ----- From: Jody <fishbox@bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 10:17:45 -0400 To: apisto@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: Things are starting to look up:-) > I assume you would keep ocellatus and brevis in hard-water tanks with sand and plenty of shells?? I plan on setting-up a Tanganyikan dwarf tank soon with multis and julies. Doh! Now I've done it - we are off-topic! > > Jody > > > > > From: "Colin Gorton" <mr_apisto@graffiti.net> > > Date: 2003/04/11 Fri AM 09:00:07 EDT > > To: apisto@v2.listbox.com > > Subject: Things are starting to look up:-) > > > > I've been in quite regular touch with a guy over here who has a fish shop and is also in to Apistos:-). He's been trying for quite some time to get an importation operation going with some of the Czech breeders and the first fruits of his work are starting to come through:-). > > Does anybody have any comments on the following species? > > -Apistogramma bitaeniata > > -Apistogramma hongsloi II > > -Apistogramma juruensis > > -Ap.sp. Rio Marmore > > -Lamprologus ocelatus > > -Nanochromis travestitus > > -Neolampr. brevis > > -Pelvica. taeniatus dehane > > > > Bitaeniata I've had before but lost them when I had a 5 day black-out, I don't think I should have any probs but I'd still like to hear any opinions. > > The juruensis are not the "Black Spike" form so they should be reasonably fertile. > > I've never been able to get hold of any hongsloi or Rio Mamore so I'm really looking forward to these. > > The brevis are going to go with some that I've already got but I'd still be interested in any info. > > The transvetitus I've had before but succumbed to an unknown illness. > > I've got P. taeniatus "Wouri" and P. taeniatus "Keinke", are the dehane significantly different in any way that I should know about? > > > > TIA for any info you guys can come up with. > > C:-)lin > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net > > > > Powered by Outblaze > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > C:-)lin They said "Smile, things could be worse." So I smiled, and sure enough... -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader