Hey Brownie... That "old guy" was right..... i over feed my fry quite often..... gives them something to pick at all day..... i siphon off the crud about once a week or so.... It also collects in the java moss i place in my fry tanks.... Hey Jerry..... you gonna hit the ACA this summer?? John ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader