Ok. I pulled the fish and put them into a 2.5, blew them around for a few minutes with a turkey baster. Took some pics... Heres what I got... http://www.aquaticscape.com/offsite/apisto_sp_male1.jpg This picture is the only one taken with a flash. http://www.aquaticscape.com/offsite/apisto_sp_male2.jpg Notice the slight vertical banding the the claudal fin http://www.aquaticscape.com/offsite/apisto_sp_female.jpg ...and the female Any ideas? The spawn pretty easy in my 10G tank. I've left all their broods in there with them - two successful successive broods growing up in there. Actually, they were so good at parenting - I tossed in some laetacara fry since my laetacara suck as parents. They're in there growing up too. -----Original Message----- From: owner-apisto@v2.listbox.com [mailto:owner-apisto@v2.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Ghazanfar Ghori Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 1:25 PM To: apisto@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: Help with ID The blue on the body only shows up in pictures, when looking at the fish it's mostly a gray body with blue and red marking on the face. I'll try to take a picture of it in fright pattern - easy enough. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@bewellnet.com> To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Help with ID > Ghazanfar, > > No, they are ot A. caetei, nor A. sp. Pebas either. Both of these species show > banding on the caudal fin. The flank color is disturbingly very similar to that > of the Bluehead/Steel-blue Apisto, but it is not as deep-bodied or laterally > compressed. In many respects it appears to be some form of A. taeniata, but it > is hard to say for sure. The bright blue color masks most of the diagnostic dark > markings. I would need to see this fish in its fright pattern, showing its dark > markings to be sure. Still, I do not believe that this is a wild form of apisto, > but a domestically 'enhanced' fish. Right now, based on what I can see, it is > either a color enhanced species of the resticulosa-complex or a cross between > the Bluehead & a resticulosa-complex fish. It obviously is different from the > Bluehead, which as a striped tail. > > Mike Wise > > Ghazanfar Ghori wrote: > > > I obtained a pair of these fish from my LFS a few months ago. They were > > labelled 'Blue Face Apisto' > > with no latin name. Here's a couple of pictures of the male.... > > > > http://www.aquaticscape.com/offsite/apisto1.jpg > > > > http://www.aquaticscape.com/offsite/apisto2.jpg > > > > They seem easy to breed...they've spawned several times now. First batch was > > eaten, though > > the other two batches are doing well. Spawning at pH 5.5 always on the > > outside of the claypot I've > > provided them. > > > > Any idea what they are? I was thinking a. caetei but I'm not sure... > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader