Hey All...... I finally suceeded in getting my Rams to give me fry..... this has been one of my nemesis fish. for some reason i could never keep ram fry alive..... parents would always eat them 2nd day post free swimming or i'd kill them by trying to raise them seperately... Well i now have free swimming fry for about 3 days now.. I guess the big key to thier survival has been that i now use "walter Worms" as a food for the fry. Walter Worms are a form of mini microworms, half the size of regular microworms and these guys stay alive longer in the water.... so this is cool.... looks like i'll be able to raise a batch of Ram fry for once..... This along with that nice batch of Elizabethae fry that are growing up keeps me happy. Also.... Wanted to wish everyone here in the States a Happy 4th of July.... Keep it safe and enjoy the weekend!! Have a nice weekend to all others who dont celebrate this holiday!! John ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader