I have now lost track of how many unfertile clutches of cacatuoide eggs I have had in the past six months, but between my two males and five females I have had one batch of fry. I was keeping three females and a male in a 10 gallon tank, along with a couple of black neons for dither fish, but the male died. However, my only spawn to this date came out of this tank. The tank was a fairly simple affair with some floating plants, and sponge filter. The tank is infected with blue green algae, and I will be treating it in the next few weeks. I keep the Ph at about 6.8, with a temp of 78, KH <1, and 90 PPM of hardness. I have two other females in a 25 gallon tank that is an old petsmart tank. The tank is part of a three tank system that I keep rams, and a few Aps. "Rotpuk"s in. The male is a really nice looking triple red that I would love to breed, but to this day, he has not spawned. This is the tank I currently have another crop of white eggs in. The tank has a little current in it because of the filtering system, but it also has some nice plants, and a few flowerpots planted in fine sand. The pH runs about 7.2, with a temp of 77, KH<1, and about 100 PPM of hardness. They have been in this tank since April, and I still have not gotten any viable eggs out of them. The tank does have some dithers, and the fish are always out in the open. I feed all of my Cacatuoides a mixture of flake food, and red worms. I do occasionally give them some white worms and bbs. I am at the point that I am ready to give up on my nice triple red male. As much as I would like to breed him, he just is not cooperating. I don't know why he is not interested. So, are there any male cacatuiodes out there looking for a home? Or does anyone have anything to suggest I try get the male more interested in the females. Thanks, --C. Alan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader