Hello Ade, Caught your post about sexing Gobiocichla ethelwynnae. This species exhibits low levels of sexual dimorphism. Males grow larger than females, are more elongated and exhibit more developed dorsal and anal fins. Ripe females exhibit a slightly swollen belly. The differences between the sexes can be hard to see, however, especially when young. Unlike congener Gobiocichla wonderi, G. ethelwynnae has never been spawned in aquaria. Perhaps you'll be the first! Good luck! Randall Kohn ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader