Hi Zsolt, I personally know Laci Sárközi, Gyula Pasaréti and Zsolt Marosi as well. Laci Sárközi is the most acknowledged breeder here in Hungary and now I have a line of Agassizi double red from him. The sp. Fresa I am very keen to get is not available at the moment on the Old Continent. I tried Mike Jacobs, but I don't think he would agree to ship to Hungary if he has any left. Thanks for the info anyway. Nice to see other magyar(s) on this apisto list. :) Regards Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zsolt Fazekas" <fazekaszs@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 07:42:54 +0000 To: apisto@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: > Hi Dani, > > If you speaks in Hungarian well - what I hope so - than visit my friend's site > dedicated to apistos :-) : > > http://dwarfcichlids.freeweb.hu > > He has got lots of different apisto species on stock to sell. > > Probably you know well Zsilinszki's Aquarium shop situated at Kosztolányi > square (XIth district) in Budapest. Gyula Pasaréti, the shop manager, imports > unique apistos quite frequently from Germany. Although the prices are rather > high, but you can get to these fishes at least. > > Regards, > > Zsolt > > > > >From: Dániel Gergely Faragó > >Reply-To: apisto@v2.listbox.com > >To: apisto@v2.listbox.com > >Subject: Re: > >Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:22:38 +0100 > > > >Hello Nuno, > > > >First of all, thanks for the answer. > > > >I live in Hungary, Budapest. 2 years ago, apistos were very hard to find here > in Hungary, but now the hobby is taking off. More or less you can find some > common species like agassizi, cacatuoides. And there are some others, that are > not so hard to find like nijjseni, panduro, trifasciata, occasionally hongsloi, > hoignei, bitaeniata. And sometimes there are more curiosities (at least for me) > like, inca, atahualpa, sp. Rio Mamore, sp. Morado, sp. Apache, juruensis, > resticulosa, ririni. Especially now that imports from Peru are coming in. I am > very sad, that I couldn't get any sp. Fresas not even from import. :( > > > >I find it a bit strange, that in Portugal it is hard to find apistos, as a lot > of species could be imported from Brazil (there are not even lingual > differences). > > > >I don't really have problems with water as RO or destilled water is available > at my LFS. I just try to fine tune the conditions and didn't know what I > measure wiht ppm. > > > >Thanks again for your answer. > > > >Daniel > > > > > Hello > > > About the species, it realy depends on your purposes. If you dont want to > mess arround with RO/DI units you should choose species that adapt well to your > kind of water (additives to correct parameters are not an option for me). Also > avoid having different species from the same group or, even worse, the same > complex because they will most certainly try to interbreed. > > > > > > You say you live in Europe where if I may ask. I live also in Europe, more > precisely in Portugal and this is a very hard place to find apistos :-( > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > Nuno Prazeres > > > > > > -----Mensagem original----- > > > De: owner-apisto@v2.listbox.com em nome de Dániel Gergely Faragó > > > Enviada: ter 02-12-2003 12:58 > > > Para: apisto@v2.listbox.com > > > Cc: > > > Assunto: ppm > > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > I am quite new to the hobby, setting up my first net 64g tank right now. I > aquired a gadget to measure PH, conductivity, and somthing measured in ppm. > Well I now that ppm is part per million, but what is this good for? > > > > > > I'm planning to have more species in the tank. Originally I planned about > 5-6 different pairs, but according to my readings this might be to much. So my > question would be: How many species may I put in this tank of mine? And Shall > it be a pair or a group from one genus? Actually my tank is not really for > breeding purposes, as you see, but everything might happen, who knows... > > > > > > Thanks for the answers in advance. > > > > > > FDG > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: BigJohnW@webtv.net (John Wubbolt) > > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:42:25 -0500 (EST) > > > To: apisto@v2.listbox.com > > > Subject: Aweful quiet lately > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All > > > > > > > > Hope all your fish are doing well..... Must be no ones having any > > > > problems with their fish..... or no ones bought any new apistos > > > > lately.... Things here are quiet.... no new species for me just > > > > working with a few old time favorites.... trying to pick up or reacquire > > > > some species Ive done in the past....but looks like with Winter setting > > > > in for good now... I'll have to wait till spring to ship in anything > > > > really good!!! Im mostly happy that im working with my F1 generation > > > > Apistogramma sp Maulbruter... So far it turns out that this is a nice > > > > Colony spawning species for me.... I would have never thought this from > > > > this species.... but i've got juvies of all different sizes in the > > > > tank.... now that the biggest of the F1's are breeding size, looks like > > > > one Pair has picked a corner flower pot to set up shop..... lets hope i > > > > see some fry swimming with the parents soon.... > > > > > > > > Keep warm ppl.... Im sure trying to here in the frozen wastelands of New > > > > York..... 8-) > > > > > > > > Tundra Johnny > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. 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