Re: what are these apistos?

[Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>]

Dániel,

It is not easy to make positive identifications from a few photos. Here
are what I think they are. I hope this helps:

Apistogramma Apache - This name is used for an undescribed species of
the regani-complex also known as A. sp. Masked/Masken & one of 2 species
sold as Carapintada/Painted-face. The fish in your photos are probably
another undescribed fish belonging to the cruzi-complex called A. sp.
Putumayo.

Apistogramma Bitaeniata - This is the common Peruvian form of A.
bitaeniata. In old books it was called A. kleei.

Apistogramma Cacatuoides wild form - This is correctly identified.

Apistogramma Hauswell - This is not the fish that usually is sold as
"houswell" - A. sp. Mouthbrooder/Maulbrüter. This is actually A. sp.
Masken/Masked (Apache)

Apistogramma Huallaga - This name is usually used for fish sold under
the name A. sp. Inka. Unfortunately, only the first photo seems to be a
female Inka. All of the other photos appear to show A. cf. eunotus
(Orange-tail).

Apistogramma Kiko - The photos show a mix of A. sp. Mouthbrooder and A.
cf. eunotus (Orange-tail). The black patches on the Mouthbrooders is
unusual, but I have seen them on A. cacatuoides from northern Peru. If
it is a disease it is not dangerous.

Apistogramma Painted face - Yes, this is A. sp. Masked/Masken

Apistogramma Purple - These fish are not A. sp. Pebas or Morado/Purple.
They look like young A. cacatuoides to me.

Apistogramma Ririni - The photos show at least 2 different species. I am
not certain which species is in photos 1 & 2. I need more pictures to be
certain. The fish in photo 3 appears to be A. sp. Putumayo.

Apistogramma Shishita - This is a mixture of Peruvian apistos: A. cf.
eunotus, A. bitaeniata, and a few A. agassizii.

Apistogramma Sunset 2 - A. atahualpa is often sold as Sunset. Your
photos show A. bitaeniata.

Apistogramma sp. "Morado" - This is not A. sp. Pebas, also known as
Morado/Purple. The caudal spot is wrong. It is A. cf. eunotus. One fish
is not. Photo #1 shows a specimen of A. panduro.

Mike Wise



Dániel Gergely Faragó wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I had a few commercial names I didn't know, and was wondering about
> the scientific names, but this time I took some pictures. They are
> not very good, but I hope they can help to identify the fish. So I
> kindly ask you if you have some time, please have a look at them to
> help me identify them. Thanks for your help.
>
> Let it begin: Apistogramma Apache -
> http://kep.tar.hu/fideltagamma/index.phtml?aid=27614375 Apistogramma
> Bitaeniata - http://kep.tar.hu/fideltagamma/index.phtml?aid=27614376
> Apistogramma Cacatuoides wild form -
> http://kep.tar.hu/fideltagamma/index.phtml?aid=27614377 Apistogramma
> Hauswell - http://kep.tar.hu/fideltagamma/index.phtml?aid=27614378
> Apistogramma Huallaga -
> http://kep.tar.hu/fideltagamma/index.phtml?aid=27614379 Apistogramma
> Kiko - http://kep.tar.hu/fideltagamma/index.phtml?aid=27614380
> Apistogramma Painted face -
> http://kep.tar.hu/fideltagamma/index.phtml?aid=27614381 Apistogramma
> Purple - http://kep.tar.hu/fideltagamma/index.phtml?aid=27614382
> Apistogramma Ririni -
> http://kep.tar.hu/fideltagamma/index.phtml?aid=27614383 Apistogramma
> Censored - http://kep.tar.hu/fideltagamma/index.phtml?aid=27614384
> Apistogramma Sunset 2 -
> http://kep.tar.hu/fideltagamma/index.phtml?aid=27614385 Apistogramma
> sp. "Morado" -
> http://kep.tar.hu/fideltagamma/index.phtml?aid=27614389
>
> Thanks for the answers. Daniel
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: D?iel Gergely
> Farag?<fideltagamma@operamail.com> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:26:34
> +0100 To: apisto@v2.listbox.com Subject: what are these apistos?
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> My LFS ha some import apistos from Peru. But the names are rather
>> interesting. Could you please tell me if you already heard about
>> these names, or have seen any of them:
>>
>> A. (bitaeniata?) "Shishita" (though this is not sure) A. sp.
>> "Sunset" (not atahualpa) Apistogramma sp "Kiko" Apistogramma sp.
>> "Huallaga" Apistogramma sp. "Hauswell"
>>
>> They are quite small and I don't know if it is worth trying one or
>> two species of the above.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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