Hello Peter. Interesting to watch a colony of apistos interacting! I have a 550 litre tank where I have about 13 fullgrown Keyholes and about 25 A. Resticulosa and a single couple of A.sp. Redpoint. In one corner of the tank there is a big bush of vallisneria. Its covers about a quarter of the tank. In that bush I think there´s 4 or 5 female Resticulosas spawning all the time. Some have frys and some have eggs. All of them are within one males territory. The funny thing is that all the females seem to cooperate when the single redpoint female enters the Resticulosa male territory. They all attack together. But returning to their "balance of terror" a soon as the redpoint female is gone. I think that the social life of the apistos is much more complicated than we can imagine. Best regards/ Per Just because they do does not mean they will. In the wild males from a harem spawning dwarf cichlids put a large amount of energy is first establishing a territory and then keeping it. In the wild there are usually lots of females ready to spawn and ready to take up home in the males territory and any female that's is not is not welcome in his territory. Why is this, well I feel it is because the non spawning female takes up space, uses up valuable food which can be used by the other females that has spawned and have fry? This also is shown in the aquarium. If two or more female are ready to spawn a male will spawn with all of them in turn and keep the piece between the females. On the other hand if one female is ready to spawn and non of the other females are they will be chase away. This is because in the mind of both the female and the male the other females will only take up space and food. If a male wants to spawn and no female is ready. He also feels that if he can remove these females from his territory it will give room for other females that are ready to spawn. There is one other interesting point I would like to add about Apistogramma males. Once they have spawned with a female they are much more accommodating to them even if they are not ready to spawn. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader