>I seem to have better luck with growth if the fry remain in the tank of the >parents (gravel, plants) than if I transport them to a bare tank of the same >gallonage. Perhaps it is the parenting, but it could also be the availability of >small food in a gravel-based and planted tank. Another possibility is the >bacteria action in the non-bare tank. Do the bacteria remove some hormones or >toxins which can build up in the bare tank? I'd add this variable as something >to be investigated. > >I have occaisionally noticed problems with growth in either set up after the fish >reach a certain size. Perhaps I'm just underestimating the amount of additional >food 1/2 fry need compared to 1/4 inch fry. After all, doubling length probably >quadruples body mass. > >--Randy I don't recall seeing this behavior in Apistos, but convicts will use their "chests" to bulldoze some of the gravel and stir up food particles and maybe small critters in the gravel for their fry to eat. I think the fry grow faster with the parents because of this help. Most aquarists don't have the time to constantly dump food into the tank whereas the parents are constantly herding the fry around the tank seeking the best grazing areas. I have noted the slowdown in growth when fry get to a certain size and I wonder if it is attributable to the anti-growth hormone theory. There is a theory that some cichlids emit anti-growth hormone that cause fish of the same species to slow down in growth and even get sick. The theory is that this is survival-enhancement for drought periods when the pools of water may be smaller and food is less abundant. I wonder if increased water changes at this stage or lessening the amount of fish in the tank may help. In raising bearded dragons, a type of lizard, the intimidation from some of the faster growing lizards seems to stunt the growth of their cohabitants whereas if the lizards were raised individually, they all have roughly the same growth rate. Perhaps intimidation from certain individuals in the growth are slowing down the growth of others because of stress and the inability to eat more because of bullying. ______________________________________________________