This was accidently delayed. Frank O'Caroll List admin Usually Tokyo, currently San Jose! - ------- Forwarded Message Received: from gol1.gol.com (gol1.gol.com [202.243.48.4]) by post.trc.rwcp.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6Wbeta5-09/29/97) with ESMTP >From VKUTTY@prodigy.net Thu Nov 13 17:41:27 1997 Message-Id: <199711132232.RAA37264@pimout1-int.prodigy.net> From: "Vinod Kutty" <VKUTTY@prodigy.net> To: <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com> Subject: Re: Shorelines vs. open water Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:28:47 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, your assumption is correct for the most part. Apistos make a perfect mouthful for a number of predatory and opportunistic predators in South America...and the Apistos know it. They live on the banks and shoreline, usually under a lot of leaf litter. How they survive under all that leaf litter is beyond me, but if you scoop up a net full of leaf litter with your pushnet, pick out all the leaves, you'll often be rewarded with a small, usually unidentifiable apisto at the bottom. Recreating this habitat in aquaria is challenging and aestherically dubious. A fine substrate of sand, small gravel, dead and parboiled oak leaves liberally scattered over the bottom, a few plants, driftwood and floating plants will make your apisto feel quite a home. They, however, will lose their shyness only if you have a large group of harmless dither fish. If you keep your fish at or near eye level and have plenty of cover, adequate lighting and dithers, they should lose their shyness, but very large, crowded tanks almost always have happy, bold apistos. As far as open-water swimming apistos, I know of none - I'd very happily be shocked if you show me one. The only pelagic cichlids you run into are the Peacock Basses of the genus Cichla. Vinny Kutty - - ---------- > From: IDMiamiBob@aol.com > To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com > Subject: Shorelines vs. open water > Date: Saturday, November 01, 1997 7:23 PM > > This question is aimed at folks like Marco Lacerda, who have had the > priveledge of collecting a number of Apistos in their native habitats. > I have always assumed because of their size and demeanor that most species of > Apistos prefer and tend to inhabit lakeshores and riverbanks, rather than the > open water areas in the middle. It is only in the last few days that I have > realized that it is indeed an assumption. Can anyone confirm or deny this > idea? It seems to me that this information could influence our "tank decor" > and help our charges to overcome their shyness. > > Bob Dixon > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > - ------- End of Forwarded Message