Howdy, > light of the short life spans previously posted in this thread I > started to worry that the fish that I have had for 11 months, and who > were presumably older than I thought according to L & S, had just > about had their run at life after I had patiently waited for them to > mature !! Nah, I had a group of 5 D. filementosus for over 3 years the last one... a female is still alive, so she'll likely surpass 4. While they did not spawn in my tank (I didn't provide adequate conditions), they did live a long time. Side comment, not at anyone in particular, I think sometimes we tend to think these apistos live shorter than what they do so we don't feel bad when they die. Cheers, Matthew