New to apistos that is! I have really enjoyed reading this list and am ready to try and ask a question so here goes: I picked up a nice group of juvenile A. agassizii (blue) 3 weeks ago. 1 male and 3 females - I figure he's got to like at least one of them! That OK Wilfred? :) They all seem to get along well with each other and the serpae tetras and corys. They are also very curious and bold, unlike I was led to believe they would be. They are in a 29G tank at 78F with some java ferns, java moss, crypts, a big log, rocks with hideouts and I'm going to put in 2 flowerpots. I alternate feeding them frozen brine shrimp, freeze dried bloodworms, little cichlid pellets and flakes (which the apistos ignore). My water measures out at pH=6, dH=10, dK=8, which I feel pretty lucky about. But enough background, here's my question. Do I have a chance of getting them to spawn without having to reduce the hardness? I have heard conflicting reports, ranging from "ro/di water and blackwater extract are required" to "apistos will spawn in almost anything". I'd really like to give it a go with my tap water if at all possible. TIA for any help! - -Doug Brown debrown@kodak.com