>> >> Kathy's second point is interesting. I always considered the male rotpunkt >> a bit more on the cacatuoides side of the spectrum than macmasteri. The >> females show strong affinities to the macmasteri group. Great fish though, >> adaptable to hard/alkaline and very productive. > >Hmmm, confusing. The male "rotpunkt" doesn't have extended >rays in the dorsal or a lyreate caudal fin like a >cacatuoides. Neither does A. nijsseni, A. panduro, you can see a transistion though. But I don't know much about the biogeography enough to say. - - Steve ********************************************************************* Steven J. Waldron phone/fax: (415) 386-7377 2550 Balboa St. #2 email: swaldron@slip.net San Francisco, CA, 94121 USA "Well I woke up in the morning There's frogs inside my socks" - Bob Dylan, On the Road Again