A while back someone asked me about the water parameters of the spawning success I've had with Dicrossus maculatus. At that time I couldn't find an entry in my log. I've recently had more spawnings and would like to share some info. I currently have 3 females each leading very young fry. A few weeks ago another female was leading fry (of which I "harvested" a good number). All successes have some common threads: * low to very low pH (low 5's to 3.6) * aged water, significant nitrates (how do you think the pH got that low) * presence of other fish (tetras) but few enough for the female to successfully keep them at bay. (I've seen eggs in a tank without other fish, but never any hatches.) * smallest tank was a 20 high, largest a 40 breeder. * eggs always on a flat surface * fry can't take bbs for a few days (perhaps this is why the successes have come in aged water) * only 1 male with at least 2 females (however, I've just removed an injured female because there was not enough territory for 4 females in a 20) * pre-spawn diet included live black worms and bbs. The first successes came in tanks with undergravel filters, but in the most recent success I have just found 2 females each guarding a "cloud" in a bare bottomed 20 high. I was shocked to read the pH at 3.6 and even to find fry. That 20 was meant as a holding tank while I worked with three other maculatus set-ups. I figured they wouldn't spawn if it was that crowded. My importer has found heavy female ratios once and heavy male ratios later. To combat the possiblity of skewed sexes, I am shifting the pH from the low side to mid-upper 6's throughout the first month of life. This apparently worked for Romer on Apisto's. - --Randy http://www.spacestar.net/users/carey/fishroom/