This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_893221619_boundary Content-ID: <0_893221619@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII A couple months ago we got into a hot and heated debate over the value and viability of a Species Maintenance Program. Someone suggested I check the website of the Aquatic Conservation Network. I finally got a response from my communication with them, and thought a few of you may be interested in what they had to say. I personally am not impressed and suspect the ASG SPM is probably doing better than these guys. In a message dated 4/21/98 8:56:11 PM EST, rob@acn.ca writes: << > Bob, > > Not only 3 hours pay, but 10 minutes time in typing a message that you > have by now figured will never get a reply. > > Sorry about the delay in responding. > > The ACN aspires(d) to more than what you have read on the web pages, > including species maintenance activities. Recent administrative woes > prompted me to cut the information back to just the basic "warm & fuzzy". > Like any volunteer organization, it does only what the members make > happen. Essentially, we've had members waiting for it to happen by itself > combined with a bit of disorganization at the top I dare say. We're > working to get back to our former level of organization, but rather a less > appealing challenge for someone wanting to get into the swim of the > conservation task. Unfortunately, too much for too few volunteers as of > late, for which no "warm and fuzzy" apologies you will get from me. I've > been trying very hard for many years to motivate aquarists out of their > fishrooms. > > So I don't promise anything at all to you and unless you want to become > part of the effort to "do" - save your wages for fish tanks and your own > species maintenance programs. > > Sincerely, > > Rob Huntley / ACN > > On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 IDMiamiBob@aol.com wrote: > >> After searching every page I could as a non-member, all I found out about the >> organization are its main objectives and the cost of a ticket in. I >> understand the need to get some money coming in so you can continue, but some >> more info would be useful, so I can decide whether membership has anything to >> offer besides a warm fuzzy feeling. I can get that free just by peeing in my >> wool kilt. >> >> Some friends and I were thinking of starting a species maintenance group for >> dwarf cichlids, but if you already have one that is compatible with our own >> goals, we could just join up with y'all. But I'm not popping three hours' pay >> just to find out. >> >> Bob Dixon >> > > ACN mailbox: office@acn.ca Rob Huntley: rob@acn.ca > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Aquatic Conservation Network http://www.acn.ca > P.O. Box 67011, Westboro RPO office@acn.ca > Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K2A 4E4 Tel: (613) 729-4670 > Fax: (613) 729-5613 > Registered Charity: Canada (0953471-52); U.S.A. (EIN 98-0141397) > ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> Sounds to me like this group is just about dead. A pity I think, as they may have been capable of something good. Bob - --part0_893221619_boundary Content-ID: <0_893221619@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <rob@acn.ca> Received: from rly-zc01.mx.aol.com (rly-zc01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.1]) by air-zc04.mail.aol.com (vx) with SMTP; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:56:11 -0400 Received: from pinetree.pinetree.org (pinetree.pinetree.org [199.212.144.1]) by rly-zc01.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id VAA04908 for <IDMiamiBob@aol.com>; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (rob@localhost) by pinetree.pinetree.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA18209 for <IDMiamiBob@aol.com>; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:55:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 21:55:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Huntley <rob@acn.ca> To: IDMiamiBob@aol.com Subject: Re: Web site info. In-Reply-To: <120e0aa6.34ef2c45@aol.com> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980421214038.15829N-100000@pinetree.pinetree.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Bob, Not only 3 hours pay, but 10 minutes time in typing a message that you have by now figured will never get a reply. Sorry about the delay in responding. The ACN aspires(d) to more than what you have read on the web pages, including species maintenance activities. Recent administrative woes prompted me to cut the information back to just the basic "warm & fuzzy". Like any volunteer organization, it does only what the members make happen. Essentially, we've had members waiting for it to happen by itself combined with a bit of disorganization at the top I dare say. We're working to get back to our former level of organization, but rather a less appealing challenge for someone wanting to get into the swim of the conservation task. Unfortunately, too much for too few volunteers as of late, for which no "warm and fuzzy" apologies you will get from me. I've been trying very hard for many years to motivate aquarists out of their fishrooms. So I don't promise anything at all to you and unless you want to become part of the effort to "do" - save your wages for fish tanks and your own species maintenance programs. Sincerely, Rob Huntley / ACN On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 IDMiamiBob@aol.com wrote: > After searching every page I could as a non-member, all I found out about the > organization are its main objectives and the cost of a ticket in. I > understand the need to get some money coming in so you can continue, but some > more info would be useful, so I can decide whether membership has anything to > offer besides a warm fuzzy feeling. I can get that free just by peeing in my > wool kilt. > > Some friends and I were thinking of starting a species maintenance group for > dwarf cichlids, but if you already have one that is compatible with our own > goals, we could just join up with y'all. But I'm not popping three hours' pay > just to find out. > > Bob Dixon > ACN mailbox: office@acn.ca Rob Huntley: rob@acn.ca Aquatic Conservation Network http://www.acn.ca P.O. Box 67011, Westboro RPO office@acn.ca Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K2A 4E4 Tel: (613) 729-4670 Fax: (613) 729-5613 Registered Charity: Canada (0953471-52); U.S.A. (EIN 98-0141397) - --part0_893221619_boundary--