- --------------06CC742FFD400185188B56F2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thomas, I hate to "put a fly in the ointment" but it's possible that you fish could be A. roraimae. I know that Kullander had synonymized it with A. gibbiceps several years ago, but it's now back on his list as a valid species. As far as I know nothing new has been described on A. roraimae, although additional collections have been taken from around Boa Vista, the type locality of A. roraimae on the Rio Branco. Koslowski states in his book that there are two forms of A. gibbiceps. The type specimens have longitudinal stripes running through the tail and long anterior dorsal fin extensions. It is a difficult species to breed, requiring extremely soft and acid water. The other form, which he calls A. cf. gibbiceps has faint vertical barring in the middle of the tail, lower dorsal fin extensions, and much easier to breed - even in neutral water conditions. The holotype of A. roraimae (a female) shows faint vertical barring in the tail. Being from the Rio Branco, a clear water river, its likely that A. roraimae doesn't require the black water needed by A. gibbiceps to spawn. Could Koslowski's A. cf. gibbiceps be A. roraimae? I don't know. But what ever it is, your fish belongs in the gibbiceps-complex. Mike Wise Thomas Soelter wrote: > Hi folks, > > i've made a few snapshots of my apistos. Three of them are already > scanned and available on the net. Oooh I've got to learn a lot on making > good photos and scans. > > My stray apisto is amongst them. Is it A. gibbiceps ? > > http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Thomas.Soelter/gibbicep.jpg : Male > http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Thomas.Soelter/gibbi_f.jpg : > Female > > my red aggi - male > > http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Thomas.Soelter/agasiz.jpg > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------06CC742FFD400185188B56F2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> Thomas, <P>I hate to "put a fly in the ointment" but it's possible that you fish could be <I>A. roraimae</I>. I know that Kullander had synonymized it with <I>A. gibbiceps</I> several years ago, but it's now back on his list as a valid species. As far as I know nothing new has been described on <I>A. roraimae, </I>although additional collections have been taken from around Boa Vista, the type locality of <I>A. roraimae</I> on the Rio Branco. <P>Koslowski states in his book that there are two forms of <I>A. gibbiceps.</I> The type specimens have longitudinal stripes running through the tail and long anterior dorsal fin extensions. It is a difficult species to breed, requiring extremely soft and acid water. The other form, which he calls <I>A. cf. gibbiceps</I> has faint vertical barring in the middle of the tail, lower dorsal fin extensions, and much easier to breed - even in neutral water conditions. The holotype of <I>A. roraimae</I> (a female) shows faint vertical barring in the tail. Being from the Rio Branco, a clear water river, its likely that <I>A. roraimae</I> doesn't require the black water needed by <I>A. gibbiceps</I> to spawn. Could Koslowski's <I>A. cf. gibbiceps</I> be <I>A. roraimae</I>? I don't know. But what ever it is, your fish belongs in the gibbiceps-complex. <P>Mike Wise <P>Thomas Soelter wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Hi folks, <P>i've made a few snapshots of my apistos. Three of them are already <BR>scanned and available on the net. Oooh I've got to learn a lot on making <BR>good photos and scans. <P>My stray apisto is amongst them. Is it A. gibbiceps ? <P> <A HREF="http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Thomas.Soelter/gibbicep.jpg">http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Thomas.Soelter/gibbicep.jpg</A> : Male <BR> <A HREF="http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Thomas.Soelter/gibbi_f.jpg">http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Thomas.Soelter/gibbi_f.jpg</A> : <BR>Female <P>my red aggi - male <P> <A HREF="http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Thomas.Soelter/agasiz.jpg">http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Thomas.Soelter/agasiz.jpg</A> <P>------------------------------------------------------------------------- <BR>Search <A HREF="http://altavista.digital.com">http://altavista.digital.com</A> for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!</BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML> - --------------06CC742FFD400185188B56F2--