On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Randy or Deb Carey wrote: > mfjacobs wrote: > > > But the big question is the REAL visual difference in A. pertensis, [and meinkeni.] Mike in addition to what Randy had to say below....on differences with meinkeni and pertensis. I understand that meinkeni had the 1st 5 dorsal lappets free vs 3 with pertensis. Meinkeni also had a ventral stripe and a short bar/anal spot and can have a asymmetrically round tail with a longer upper lobe/portion. Pertensis has a round tail and lacks the ventral/anal stripe. Now I haven't gotten to spawn both of these guys yet, so the info is from the literature. I too have 4-5 contaminants from a batch of Dicrossus and think I may have pertensis and a possible meinkeni in there. Haven't gotten a chance to study them in detail. Also may have an elizabethae in there as well...haven't even talked to Erik about that one yet. Interesting but in some of the lit I have seen them mention that meinkeni, uapesi, elizabethae and brevis can be found in/near the same river system (uapesi). I am sure Mike Wise would know the latest on this, my sources are a little older. Kathy Randy's reply > > Like Dorthy in "The Wizard of OZ," you had the power/answer all along. It's in > Linke/Staeck. > > [1] iniridae has the lateral band continue into the caudal, but the other two has > a distinct caudal spot, separated from the lateral band. > > [2] pertensis males have short ventrals, but the other two have long ventrals. > > With these two features, you should be able to figure out the differences (on > adult males). > > Further differences are present as well. For instance, meinkeni has a broken > caudal pattern (upper vs lower) and only iniridae has a light, white edging on > its dorsal and caudal fins. > > > --Randy > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!