Hi all, I just wanted to warn you about bbs. A few years ago I started breeding and I had some fry of my angelfish. So I needed to hatch bbs. I bought eggs at the local, trustworthy, petshop and started. I did everything right , but they didn't hatch at all. Apparently, these eggs had been in the store for God knows how long and had lost their 'live' (sorry, I know what I want to say in Dutch, but I guess not many of you will understand). The fry died of hunger. So watch out for really old eggs, the results decrease with age. When I got fresh eggs, at first I was measuring everything to the milligram. After a while I got sloppy and I have to say that bbs are not very (understatement) sensitive. Dear Mike (Wise), I like to hear you talk about splitters and clumpers! I also know this from paleontology (I study geology) and this always gives nice discussions. You must really be into the scientific publications. It is however a really important discussion. Where do you draw the line when there are fluent transitions from one species to the other? This is an important thing to remember, names are not at all absolute as they may appear in books, but are extremely relative. In most cases, a cf. or aff. is probably advisable. However, if my memory serves me well, cf. means: 'looking like species A, but certainly not species A'. cheers, Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!