Guillaume_Hervieu wrote: <<<< Another story: besides apistos, I have a blue gourami that becomes more and more wounded. First it began with wounds on its skin as if it was getting hurt on sharp rocks (it liked to be in caverns and there is some competition between fish to get there ). This has been going now for a few months. I was away for 2 weeks and there are now holes in the gills and this is bloody red. Also skin gets away on its left face side. It seems that it will reach the eye. Bloody holes get now bigger and bigger as if the process was accelerating. I really don't think that it has sthg to do with mouth fungus. The fish however does not seem to be troubled so far. Of course that's my best fish friend and my longest one...But at that stage, I don't see how he can recover. I was thinking of fish tuberculosis (I read that it was 'common' in ananbatidaes)? So far I have done a phenoxyethanol treatment but it does not seem to help (3 days of continuous bath @ 0.1g/l). I am now thinking of an oxytetracycline treatment? >>>>>>>> If you really think in terms of fish tuberculosis, you better destroy the fish ASAP, since it can infect humans too and it is totally unrealistic to expect to treat TB in aquarium setting (long and complex therapies are needed). There is a lot of variability, but TB often causes weight loss, dropsy and slow progressing, not inflamed skin ulcers. If the lesions you see appear bloody, it may be another type of bacterial infection, which can be treated successfully with antibiotics like Furanace, if used as directed on the box. Many of the "good for everything" antibiotics commonly sold in aquarium stores will however be useless. I assume you have ruled out water quality as a problem: if not, check first for ammonia and pH. Dionigi Maladorno dionigi.maladorno@roche.com This message presents personal opinions which are not necessarily those of my employer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!