Hi pat, I've been through much the same thing with Taeniatus in a planted tank,mine got to the point of the stringy white feces. I dosed the tank with Metronidazole,with no ill effect to the plants. As a side note to Canadian readers I've been told that Metronidazole will no longer be available from your L.f.s in Canada,if you use this stuff,it might be wise to pick some up before it becomes readily unavailable! Steve Van.B.C ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!