Jason, I got this species from Marco Lacerda at the 1997 ACA Convention in Chicago. They spawned for me within a month of getting them home under conditions similar to Helen's. I, too, find the female an exceptional parent, even to having two spawns in the same tank (18X16X10 in.) at the same time. Marco & I have an article on this species coming out soon in the Buntbarsche Bulletin. One thing I would definitely change is feeding black worms. No matter what people claim, they are a tubificid worm that needs an organic rich environment to live in. There is always a chance of bringing in diseases since they can't be totally cleaned out. I can't tell you the number of times I've had people call or write me about their apistos coming down with something nasty after feeding black worms. There are so many other good live foods out there. No one needs red or black tubifex. I'd substitute chopped earthworms or white/grindal worms for them. They may take a little more effort to cultivate, but in the long run they are a whole lot less expensive to feed and a lot safer for your fish. Mike Wise I sent this message out yesterday but didn't see it go through, so I'm sending it again. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > >email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. > >Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List > Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!