In a message dated 2/4/99 12:57:41 AM Mountain Standard Time, webwill@infinet.net writes: > Any suggestions about the snails would be greatly appreciated- these are the > first Apisto spawns I have had. > > Cory If desparate times call for desparate measures, try Had-A-Snail or some similar product from your LFS. These are generally copper-based and will take out any and all inverts before the Cu level has to be raised to a point where it is harmful to your fish. Bio-load (read:ammonia and DOCs from rotting flesh) will be pretty high for about a week after they are dead, so follow the prescribed treatment, and then follow it with lots of water changes for at least a week. Use an ammonia test at least daily thereafter for another two weeks and respond as needed. Again, this is a last-hope scenario. It is better to rip the tanks down and eliminate the snails or take all the fish out and treat without them. Unfortunately, circumstances like Cory's don't always allow us to do things the best possible way. Bob Dixon ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!