Hi all, As you could have guessed my blue rams spawned and now there is a cloud of fry. I wanted to thank everyone for the info on using peat. I feel this is why I have fry now. These guys spawned once before but the eggs just did not develop properly. After a 50 % water change with water that was filtered through peat, bingo! The only down side to all this is there were actually two pairs in this 20 gallon long and when I deceided to rescue the pair that was in the conrer hiding, I found out why they were in the corner, only after I had moved them. Not because the other pair was harrassing them but because they also had a clutch of eggs in a pit in the corner. Oh well, you know what they say, "A bird in the hand......." Thanks again everyone (Austin) Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!